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Ursula von der Leyen Is Becoming the New Brezhnev, Says Viktor Orbán in Interview

MTI-Hungary Today 2025.06.27.

Viktor Orbán was a guest on Kossuth Radio on Friday morning. In the interview broadcast from the public media’s Brussels studio, he spoke about the outcome of the referendum on Ukraine’s EU accession, this week’s EU and NATO summits, as well as the ban on Pride.

Ukraine’s EU Accession

“With over two million votes in the 2025 referendum, we stopped Ukraine’s accession to the European Union,” claimed the Prime Minister. Viktor Orbán said of Thursday’s EU summit that there was “no unanimous enthusiasm” for Hungary’s announcement that it would not agree to the opening of the first chapter of negotiations.

He emphasized that negotiations are a long process and that the opening of chapters must be decided unanimously by the Member States, including Hungary.

He indicated that EU leaders want Ukraine to join the European Union as soon as possible and are looking for a solution to sideline the Hungarians.

They have not been able to do that so far, even though I was standing alone in their way, like the famous lone Chinese protester in front of the Chinese tanks in Tiananmen Square in the old video, but now there were 2.2 million of us standing in their way, saying that this is not the way forward,”

he said.

He also noted that they understand the Ukrainians, see their extremely difficult situation and heroic struggle, and that they need help, but “we want to help them without destroying ourselves in the process.” He said the decisive argument for Ukraine’s EU membership is that the country is at war.

He added that Ukraine has “clearly been attacked” and that Ukrainians are “victims of a military action that violates international law,” but the fact remains that this is a war. Orbán pointed out that in contrast, EU leaders are talking about Ukraine’s accession happening as soon as possible, which means that this is “an immediate threat.”

NATO Membership

The Prime Minister saw the essence of the problem with Ukraine as being that when a country is admitted to the EU, it is necessary to know where its borders are and how large its population is. At the same time, “through no fault of their own, Ukrainians are now an undefined entity,” and “we do not even know what will remain of it,” he said.

He noted that this danger had always existed when countries that had previously belonged to the Soviet bloc were admitted, therefore the solution was to first admit these countries into NATO, thereby guaranteeing military security. “This way, the EU did not have to deal with this issue, as it was known that Hungary, Poland, Lithuania, and Romania were members of NATO, where their borders were, and that they would remain there, because NATO, including the United States, guarantees this with its full military force.”

He emphasized that this is not possible in the case of Ukraine, however, as it cannot be admitted to NATO because that would mean “we would be in World War III the next day.”

Regarding the change in public opinion, he said that the NATO Summit was a simpler story: “The Americans, the newcomers, arrived and said, ‘Okay, so far we have had this pleasant gathering where we could say all kinds of nonsense, but now let us talk seriously. Do you seriously think Ukraine should join NATO? Forget about it.”

Our position became the majority position in NATO, and it became NATO’s position,

the Prime Minister noted.

Brussels Centralization

“The European Union is more difficult; Brussels should only be a coordinating center, but it is increasingly behaving like Moscow, sending instructions to Budapest,” warned the Prime Minister. “This is what Ursula von der Leyen and Mr. Weber are doing,” partly directly, partly through the Brussels parties – Tisza and DK – sending messages to Hungary, he claimed.

Sometimes directly, as Ursula von der Leyen is doing now, he said, noting that she is showing “signs of Brezhnevization,” increasingly behaving like a Soviet party secretary,

he explained.

Orbán emphasized that there is no need to be afraid that Hungary is alone now, because this was exactly the case with migration, and it will be the same with the Ukrainian issue. He suggested that Ukraine’s EU membership would first have serious consequences in Central Europe, hence the mood would change here first, then the Germans, Austrians, Czechs, and finally the French would follow suit.

Pride

Responding to a question, Orbán recalled that von der Leyen had called on the Hungarian authorities to allow Pride to take place in Budapest on Saturday.

She did so on the same basis as Moscow once did: she considers Hungary a subordinate country and thinks she can dictate to Hungarians from Brussels how they should live, what they should like, what they should not like, what their legal system should be like, what should be banned and what should not.”

However, he emphasized that the event must be registered and approved by the police. If the police refuse to do so, the matter can be taken to court, and the court will decide. Anyone who violates this rule, fails to comply with this procedure, or organizes or participates in an event that is prohibited by law will be punished, he pointed out.

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Via MTI, Featured image: MTI/Miniszterelnöki Kommunikációs Fõosztály/Fischer Zoltán


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